SPEAKER_02 0:32

Welcome to the Victory Podcast, where we explore the rise of Vermont soccer through the lens of community culture and the game itself, featuring stories from Vermont Clover FT. Join us as we talk with players, coaches, and the people shaping the future of the game in Vermont. Welcome to the Pink and Green podcast. I am AJ and he is Chris George, baby. A very busy Chris George.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Not as busy as springtime, Chris George.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Yeah, that's true. Uh how you been, man? It's been a while. It's been a hot minute.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

It has been a hot minute. I am like we are in our fall season here at Paul Smith's, so that consumes basically 100% of my attention, which is really great. And I enjoy the deep focus of the fall soccer season and what it brings and just being with the guys and doing all that thing. It is a completely different vibe than what I'm doing in the spring where I'm running around like crazy and it's somebody else's team that I'm helping support. Like this is my team, so we can kind of do it the way that it is. And I think that for most of our players and all of our coaches, they are also going to be kind of deep in the beginning of their season at the time of this recording.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Yes, that's very true.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

We all all of these relationships disappear from each other for like three months a year.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

You know, in the first year of doing anything, you learn a lot.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, totally. Well, and it's cool. And why I thought of having our guest, which we haven't introduced yet, we're gonna keep the mystery going for a little bit. Why I thought of having this person on is because I saw him like, what was it, last week? And you know, we and he played uh against the team that I'm coaching. And you know, we keep in pretty close touch because he also is in the Adirondacks. So without further ado, we should introduce our guest.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Absolutely. Our guest today is Henry Gibson. He is a midfielder for Vermont. Clover, Henry, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Hi, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

We are very excited to have you. Uh, you were definitely one of the top scoring uh players on the team this inaugural season. Uh, so if you could let's kick it off. We'll have you tell you a little bit about yourself, um, you know, who you are kind of outside of Clover. And uh, you know, let's let's after that kick it off with how did you find out about Vermont Clover?

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Um, well, currently I'm a mechanical engineering student. Uh I go to Clinton Community College in Plattsburgh I was living at home. I just got an apartment actually in Plattsburgh though. Uh so I'm living up there uh last week. Um yeah, that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Nice. Uh mechanical engineering. So I I'm an IT engineer nerd. What what do you what kinds of things are you doing in mechanical engineering?

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Um, I don't know. It's a lot of a lot of design. The first especially my first year was like a lot of design, a lot of CAD work, um, and now a lot of physics, um, and just like kind of like fluid dynamics and like um yeah, mainly a lot of physics and designing so far.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

Nice. Okay. All right. I so throughout the course of my IT career, I have worked with and supported many mechanical engineers. Yeah. And uh it's it's so I kind of understand like what you do a little bit and the software that you use, uh, that's been fun to manage, but that's neither here nor there. How did you find out about uh Vermont Clover?

SPEAKER_00 4:16

I actually found out about it through another uh player, um Mason Brown, who is I trained with him a lot. We live relatively close to each other, and we played on the same club team, and we were just talking one day, and he's like, Hey, check check this team out. I found out about them. Um, you should sign up, and I think I'm gonna play for them. And then I was like, Okay, cool, I'll check him out. And then I ended up finding out at first when I did, I didn't realize it, but um Chris, I didn't realize I knew him through Paul Smith. I'd played Paul Smith earlier that season uh with VTSU Randolph, and we had met and stuff. Um, and then I later found out that he was the one kind of like that I was emailing with, and I was like, I everything kind of clicked, and I was like, uh nice, nice how I know that this guy knows who I am as a player, right? Exactly. I was like, I was like, oh, he he kind of he kind of it seems like he knows me, and I was like, I was confused, I was like trying to think, trying to think, and then I I finally realized it.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

I think you said something about Paul Smith, and I was like, uh Yeah, it's I would say you were one of the first guys that was like really all in on the whole thing, you know, because you were like in for the winner, yeah. And I you are a little bit different than a lot of the guys on the team because these guys are mostly from Chittenden County and you're coming across the lake from New York, and you you even did that in your in your club when you played as a kid. So you want to talk a little bit about you know why you chose to come over and play in Vermont versus playing, you know, kind of all the time in New York and things like that?

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Um, I mean, yeah. So I was playing for uh team uh PFC Plattsburgh Football Club when I was younger, and they're they're kind of like playing indoors and stuff. Um, and then they would like practice outdoors, we would travel, it was a travel team, and then COVID happened, and the only every team was shut down, there was like no soccer, and the only team that was actually practicing at the time was Synergy, and at the time everything was shut down, and there was only a couple of Synergy guys from who were like from Plattsburgh and like the New York side who were practicing in in New York and like the coach would like send them stuff to do. And so I I joined them. I started going to the Plattsburgh or to Plattsburgh to train with them, and then eventually when the ferry and like everything opened up and you could travel again, I started going over and training with them. And so that was that was kind of the reason that I joined them or I ended up joining them is because they were the only people kind of practicing during the whole COVID time.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Yeah, and did you go right from did you go right from Synergy into into VTSE Randolph, or was it or like was there stuff in between that?

SPEAKER_00 6:53

There was stuff in between. I went from Synergy to Northwoods in Lake Placid, and for like a year I lived up in Lake Placid with my aunt, and then went to school uh on Northwoods and played for BlackRock.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Yeah. So for the listener who doesn't know, Northwood is a private school that's very much kind of sports focused, similar to like the prep schools that are, you know, down in Lower New England, but it's up here in Lake Placid, which is relatively near where where Henry lives, and also about halfway between where Paul Smith College is and where Henry's currently living in Plattsburgh. So for all of you Vermont folks who don't New York know New York geography, you're getting a little dose of it today. Uh and then so Northwoods and then Randolph, you're there for a year, and then you decided to transfer back home to to Clinton. And what was the what were some of the what were some of the which is a little bit non-traditional from some of the other players though on the on the team where like they go to college, they stay there for four years to graduate. What were some of the things that went into your decision about first of all to go to Randolph and then to come back closer to home?

SPEAKER_00 7:56

So to be honest, I wasn't, I was I kind of like got burnt out at Northwoods. I I went back to in my 11th and 12th grade year, I went back to my public high school and just kind of played there. And I was I joined PFC again just kind of for fun. And I wasn't like really taking soccer like super seriously. I was just kind of playing, and I I had some people like Canton, they were like, Hey, do you want to come here? They like found out about me. And my mom was kind of like pushing me to go, but I was like, Oh, I don't really know if I want to play soccer in college, I want to just kind of do engineering, I don't know if I'd be able to do both. But then um actually I was gonna go, I got into UNH. Uh uh I actually first I went and tried out at UNH, and they were like, Oh, your your technical ability is good enough, but like kind of you're not physically in shape enough, and and these things. So I was like, okay, sounds good. And I had already gotten into UNH for school-wise, and I was just gonna go there and study engineering, but then last minute Randolph was like, Hey, do you want to come? We see you haven't like gone anywhere, you haven't committed anywhere. Do you would you want to come here? And I was like, they have engineering, which I'm looking for, they have soccer, which I'm looking for, so it kind of like seemed perfect, and they were like relatively close to home. Um, and so I went and took a visit and I I talked to the coach and I talked to their athletic director, and they were kind of like, uh, we were honestly our soccer team, like last year, they weren't like the the strongest, but they're we're trying to build something, and I and we want you to be a part of we're trying to bring like soccer back since COVID. We haven't had a great sports program. Um, like their basketball team's been good, but soccer and women's soccer and everything hasn't been strong since COVID, but we're trying to really bring it back and build something up. Um, and we think you would be a great part of that. Um, and we would love to have you here. And so I was like, you know what, sure, yeah, I'll go. Um, and it kind of seemed like the perfect opportunity. And that's that's how I ended up at Randolph.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Yeah, and then you were there for one semester, and then you came back to Clinton. And what was that what was that process like?

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Um, so I the I talked to the Clinton coach before, and I was kind of like, yeah, no, I don't really who was also trying to do the same thing with building up a program that had been lost since COVID, but I was like, I don't really know if I want to live in Plattsburgh that's kind of too close. Um and I was kind of like at Randolph, we had our season, and it was it was an all right season. I I enjoyed it, I had a lot of fun. I love the team, I love the guys, but then when soccer ended, I kind of was like, uh, there's not really much to do in Randolph. Um and it was more the it was more the place than anything. I was like, I don't know if I really like it here. Um yeah, and like when soccer was done, there wasn't really too much to do, and so I was like, hey, maybe I'll look into going to Clinton, I can get my associates. It's gonna be really cheap to do it. Um so I'll be saving a lot of money. I'll be living at home. I really miss my mom's food and my mom's cooking. So that was a big part of it. Um and then I kind of I reached out to the coach, I was like, hey, um, what's what's this like what's this process look like? And he's like, hey, so we can't talk until you enter the transfer portal and like do all these such and such things. And I was like, okay, I got that done. And I was like, hey, got this done. Um when am I coming to Clinton? And he's like, and I put my application in, got applied, and then I like I pretty much told my mom, I did that in like a week, and then I told my mom, like, hey, I'm transferring to Clinton, and then she was like, Okay, and I ended up coming home, moving all my stuff back, and then after the winter, I was going to Clinton.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah, so the the common theme here is that like you like to be a part of things as they're building, right? So, like Randolph was like, Okay, we're gonna rebuild this thing, and and I know Kyle, your current coach will pretty well, and he's like, Yeah, I'm building a thing, and he's done a really great job at that.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, he really has.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

You come into Clover and it's like the very first year, like you're building a thing. Um, so how's your so now you're what a few games into fall season at Clinton? How's the you know, how's that all going? Like, how's the team? How do you like how do you like the whole environment? Is that like, do you think, okay, this is a really good choice that I made?

SPEAKER_00 12:16

Yeah, I I do think it's a really good choice I made. I really actually I'm having a great time. Um, I've known most of the guys for forever because a lot of them are from the Plattsburgh area and they played on my club team. Um, and so I've just known them a really long time. Uh I got actually an apartment or a house with one of my best friends on the team, and so that's been cool. Um and the we've had we've been doing all right so far. Um, we play the Juco, the league we play in is really good, really good competition. And um we're kind of just a lot of local guys, like I said, and it's been cool to see how we match up. Like we we beat, we we tied, we played you, we tied you. Um that was a really good game. And then we had our first like league game. We won 2-0. We should have had a lot more goals, we just couldn't score. But then we had a back-to-back game in Buffalo where we played this team, Jamestown, who's one of the like top ranked uh teams in the JUCO, I think. Or they're up there, they're pretty good. And we lost we lost 4-1. But like I said, we had a back-to-back game and we had drove seven hours and then two more hours the next day to get to that game, and uh everybody was kind of tired, but and to go to lose 4-1, it wasn't great, but it kind of like was like, hey, we we maybe have a spot in here, and like we're we're gonna able to compete. And if everybody wasn't tired, I think it would have been a a lot closer of a game. And then we had a game the other night, Hudson Valley, that was Wednesday. We ended well, unfortunately, we we lost 2-1, but it wasn't like we were they we weren't competing with them. We were we were it was a really good game. We should have had a couple more goals, and it was an unfortunate loss, but I don't think they it was like they were so much better than us that we couldn't beat them if we played them again.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Yeah, and that's kind of how the the stepping stones work is like you go to where you're you're not really competitive with some schools, and then you get competitive with some of the weaker ones, and then start beating them, and you get competitive with the more powerful ones. And for those, again, for the listener who doesn't know and you aj, so region three is the end region three division two, which is the non-athletic scholarship uh like two-year schools, basically. It's all the ones in New York is region three, and it's the best one in the country. Like, and like not even not even there isn't even a close second. It is hands down the hardest two co-conference in the country. The national champ the national champion comes from there almost every year, and when it doesn't, they're playing in the final four. So there's if you win region three, you are the best team in the country, basically, even if you don't win the final. And and the way that there's really two there's really two kind of ways that people approach building the program, right? So some of those schools have a lot of international guys that they're trying to move on to like big schools, right? And then you know, so Jamestown, I'm sure, was full of international guys and like Mohawk Valley and and some of the other ones on and Daga, Hercomer, you know, yeah, finger legs, exactly. And then the other the other way that people build the program, which is the way that uh Henry's team is and the way Kyle Cahun's doing it, is it's he takes a look and says, Okay, we've got a lot of talent here, let's just build with local talent. And so most of the guys, if not all of them, are from the North Country that play on that play on um on Clinton. Uh North Country itself is like that. Most like there's one called North Country Community College, which we also play against. They're mostly guys from like northern New York that like they're trying to do a thing. So it's a really cool kind of really cool kind of thing. And from a clover of it all perspective, you know, Kyle's ethic is the same as exactly the same as ours. Like let's provide opportunities for local guys to play at this high level and then you know go on to bigger and better things. So it's a really cool and the world is better when the local community colleges are really competitive with all the rest of them, right? So you know that Clinton struggled for a couple of years and now they're with Henry's guys, they're starting to be really competitive. That's a good thing for everybody. It really is. It's good for the kids that are playing, it's great for the area, it's great for the league, you know, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Henry, I think we uh we kind of skipped over how how'd you get into soccer and what what's your soccer coming up kind of been like?

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Uh I mean I've I don't really know how I got into soccer. I've just always played, I guess. I don't remember a time when I didn't play soccer, and I don't remember a time when soccer wasn't really like all I did. So I I can't really say. I I've just my I started off playing in like uh as a kid, like the elementary teams and stuff, and uh just kind of went from there. And then actually at my school, there was like this group of guys that um they they we would play every single recess. I think it started in like fourth grade when this my one my best friend now actually at the time he moved he moved in from another school, came to our school, and we would play every single recess. Rain, snow, outside, indoor, we would play. Didn't matter. And I we I wanted to win, I wanted to be the best, and so I'd go home and I'd train just for hours, like outside in my lawn, just doing stuff, practicing, because I wanted to go back the next day and win that recess. And yeah, so that's kind of like where where it all started, and then I just kept going from there.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Uh what what clubs or or teams have you you played on? So you said like like the middle school, um, I I think I saw you were on Peak Academy or Peak Pookie?

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Yeah, I did, yeah. Uh back when there was Synergy, but now Peak. Oh, yeah, Northwoods, BlackRock, um, and then uh Plattsburgh Football Club in Plattsburgh and then Clover.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Nice. Okay. Um what what were your initial thoughts when you first heard about Vermont Clover and and this new UPSL team coming to the region?

SPEAKER_00 18:51

Uh I think I pretty much thought, hey, I just want to play soccer. This will be a great opportunity.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Um, I can't wait. I can't wait to train during the summer, keep in shape. Um yeah, I was just excited to play. I'm always excited to play. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

That's I will say that's very evident. Anytime I've ever seen you come out onto the pitch. Yeah, yeah, I can tell you're you're ready to go, and it's it's been a lot of fun watching you this summer. Um, what's this first season been like for you? I mean, I mean, as I said when I opened the show, you you you've been one of the top contributors on the team this year. Um, so what's this first season been like for you?

SPEAKER_00 19:27

I had a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. I I re I it was a lot of traveling, but it was definitely all worth it. Um Yeah, I would I would I remember actually I I would be in class, some of my classes wouldn't get out till like pretty late, and in order to be on the right ferry, I I would just I would get my work done as quick as I could and then drive to the ferry, get on the ferry, go across. Even if I had to do homework in the car on the drive over, I'd just get everything done as quick as I could just just so I could come across and practice and and play.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Yeah, I I guess I didn't realize there early on uh that you were coming over from Plattsburgh for every single practice and stuff, and those were happening pretty pretty late at night around Channel County. Um so kudos to you for making that haul.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was definitely like I said, it was worth it. It was a hundred percent worth it. I'd do it all over again every single time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Uh that's great to hear. Did you like the pink shirts or not like the pink shirts?

SPEAKER_00 20:26

I loved them actually. I have it uh framed in my house in like a in a in a jersey box actually right now.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

That's so cool, man. I love that. The white one you're like, whatever, but the pink one's gotta go up on the wall.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Well, the white one I have uh hanging on the hanger like on my wall, but then the jer the the pink one is like in a in a frame box with like a glass over it and everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Yeah, you know, a long time from now, when the club's been going for a hundred years, that jersey might be worth, you know, $35 or $36.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Yeah, right. Yeah, I think hopefully collectors. I would never sell it though.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah, that's good. All right, that's cool. I appreciate the loyalty. And and I'll I'll echo what AJ said. It's really obvious watching you play, coaching against you, you know, and and then watching you play for for Clover, you know, our team, like I just the joy you play with and and your competitiveness is like really fun to watch. And it's one of the things that when we're getting ready to play against you, I'm like, this guy, like, he wants to be better than you. Like he may or may not be, but he's going to try to show you that he is better than you. So like you need to be ready to compete with this guy. And our guys, I don't think they really internalized what that was gonna mean until they saw you and they're like, okay, now we get it. And so it was a really good, it was a really fun game to coach in, and it was a really I'm it looked like it was a really fun game to play in too and real physical.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Yeah, it was. It was definitely very physical, but it was it was so much fun. I I was I like playing under the lights, I like playing in that field. It was it was a lot of fun. And I I remember actually I told I told all my teammates that I lost you guys last year and I was not gonna let it happen again, and I did not want to lose again.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

Yeah, and you guys didn't. I it's to be fair, and I told this to I've told this to people, it's like we left our young guys in late because I was like, okay, let's see if they can do it. And you guys that are more experienced, like you and Isaac and some of the other guys on Clinton were able to get the job done in the ways that like our less experienced guys weren't able to do so. And it was a really for us, it was a really great like a growth lesson, and like this is what it takes to get a result when you go, okay, it's three to one, and now it's three to two, and okay, three to three, right? How do you keep going from three to from from three to two to three to three, right? And it was a it was a really great like moment of growth for our guys. We have since tied the other two games we've played, so maybe we're not quite over the hump on the tying thing yet, but you know, not a bad thing. And the the you said you like the field for AJ, you haven't been up here yet, but it's like it it's like a literally a pasture in the middle of the woods. You like turn across the fire department, you go up the hill on this like dirt driveway. Through like a cattle gate, and then they park, and then there's like this soccer field, like just like literally, it's a clearing the size of a soccer field that cars can park at. So like there's these giant pine trees all the way around, and Paul Smith is the college of the Adirondacks, and everything's made out of wood. So there's these like handmade lean-to things on the side on the team side, and you can't sit in them and watch a game, it's ridiculous. Like it's not like that kind of clamshell, but you're like meant to, even though you can't do it. So it's a very unique environment for playing and for coaching and and for watching the game. It's really cool. If you look at the backdrop on some of the pictures that like the photographers take, you can really you really get a vibe for how woodsy the place is.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Yeah, it's one of the the photographers that covers uh your your practices and games had a drone up and got like a really good view of the field, then I was like, that looks really, really cool.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Yeah, it's one of our hockey players, Tony's his name.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Oh, nice. All right, very cool.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

Yeah, that too. What a okay, so let's talk future. Let's talk future for what's the future for Henry Gibson?

SPEAKER_00 24:01

Honestly, I wish I knew right now. That's kind of something I'm working on. Um, I was talking to WPI uh and I I'd really want to go there, I think. Uh the area uh we played a clover game there, and I kind of was driving through and I was like, I really like this place, I really like this area. This is really sick. Um and I they have a good soccer program, they have really good engineering, and actually I I graduate with my associates in the fall, and I think I'm looking to switch to robotics and study robotics with and maybe um minor in animation or something like that, but they have which they have both really good programs for. Um, and so I really would want to go there. I'm talking to the coach and I'm just gonna see how things turn out with that. I think I'm gonna try and go to Europe maybe and see if I could kick it there and like see if anything will work out, even if I'm like in the fifth division or something in like Poland and see if anything will work out because I kind of just want to play soccer, and that's the main thing. After and after I get my associates, my mom said she wasn't she didn't really care what I do.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

I mean, you can always come back and like work at her work at her deli, right? If like everything falls back, it'd always work, you can always sling sandwiches, man. And there's no like exactly a good profession sing slinging sandwiches. Is Boket Valley is that where you went to school? Like yeah, it is, yeah. There's a I only know that that high school exists because there's a girl that plays for Paul Smith's, your friend um Scarlett, actually.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Um yeah, actually, she's my neighbor.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

You guys are neighbors? I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Yeah, she lives like a couple houses over, but like, yeah, she's right lives right next to me. And I've I've been in class with her since kindergarten. Or actually before, I've known her before.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Yeah, you guys, so you've known her like so so that so and her sister Scarlett, I assume. Scarlett, sorry, Charlotte. Yeah, I assume the three of you have like known each other like your whole lives then. Yeah, that's pretty cool. They again, so AJ, so Scarlett goes here and plays soccer, and then her sister Charlotte goes to, I think she goes to Potsdam. I don't know if that's the Potsdam. Yeah, so the North Country is a pretty small, it's like real Vermont vibes over here, even though it like feels completely different than Vermont, but it's like really kind of the same. It's like small communities in the mountains, but and there really is a strong sense of community in the north country. There really is, like the people help each other out, like they're good neighbors. That's a thing that you know. I kind of say like the North Country kids are the same as the Vermont kids, even though they're different, if that makes sense. And then Plattsburgh's its own kind of vibe in the way that Burlington is its own kind of vibe. Like it's in Vermont and it's definitely Vermont, but it's like different, and that's kind of how Plattsburgh is in the North Country. Yeah. I do you like living in Plattsburgh?

SPEAKER_00 26:54

I mean, I've been there for four days, and so far it hasn't been too bad. I it's definitely better than I thought it would be. I would because like I like I said, um, like you mentioned, I kind of live in the middle of nowhere, like out in the woods in the mountains, um, with nothing really around, a really quiet, like kind of slow area. And moving up, I figured like moving up there would be like really different, but it's a it's a nice place, it's a really nice house. And um, there's four of us living there right now. Um, it's not too busy. Uh so yeah, I like it. Um I'm really I like that I'm really close to my classes, so I don't have to drive an hour every single day.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Oh yeah. Are you close enough to walk?

SPEAKER_00 28:04

No, not close enough to walk, but it's like a five-minute drive.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Yeah, that's awesome. I what what do you what are you what kind of questions do you have, AJ?

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Uh you are an engineer. Does does any of that engineering thinking come out while you're playing? Like, are you trying to you know take take measure of angles? No, that's probably too too in-depth. But I mean, you know, kind of seriously though, like when you're on the pitch, is your engineering brain working in kind of the same way?

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Uh I mean, I don't know. I don't think my brain's really working when I'm playing. I I'm not really thinking, to be honest. I can I can't I can't distinguish like what I what I think about or what I do. I just kind of do it. Gotcha, I'd say. Um yeah, I just it's I think yeah, engineering, you had to like think about like, oh, what formula I'm gonna use, what like what I'm gonna do for this, how am I gonna solve this problem and stuff, and like soccer is moving so quickly that you don't have like uh opportunity to think what what am I gonna do for this? Like you just gotta kinda react and like be instinctive and and just go off of like what's like just quickly go off the moment.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Yeah. It's great advice for young players too, is like don't think about it, just do it. Just go in the moment, do what the moment, do what the moment dictates, and you know, and go from there. And you know, you can look at those moments back on video or whatever and try to be better in those moments, but it you shouldn't be thinking like you shouldn't be thinking the game, you should be playing the game, right?

SPEAKER_00 29:31

Yeah. And like, yeah, you can go back, you can watch the video and like see what you can do next time and add that to your instincts so you like watch it and learn what to do better, but just yeah, don't like don't think too much. Just kind of kind of like I know I know one thing that I've always like heard no matter what who the coach is just have an idea in your head before you get the ball. Like, just kind of like know what you're gonna do. Don't don't react, be proactive and kind of yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Yeah, who have been some of your favorite coaches to play for? Um and why you gotta answer why too.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

I think some of my favorite coaches would definitely Phil from Synergy. I really like playing for him. I liked how intense he was. I liked I loved the practices, they were so intense, they were so well thought out. Um, and like everything had a purpose, and like you just the standard was so high, and like it took nothing, like it was just like go. Like, um, even for what is like you get 45 seconds for water, like just don't like don't waste any time. Make sure everything is like intentional with what you do. Like if you if you miss like if if when we're doing technical bit technical work, if you miss hit a pass, it's like pushups. So you just gotta be like really perfect. Um and then at Northwoods, I had the this coach, the assistant coach, who was umar was his name. Uh Comar Martinez. I don't really know where he was from, but he he was such a good player. He was like a little older than us, but he was like he's so good and so technical, and like he would he just had a lot of insight, a lot of like um stuff to like help you and to give advice to give you. I really liked him. I don't know. I kind of like I don't really have a favorite coach, I wouldn't say I like all my coaches, and I think every coach has some brings something different to the table and like how they approach um things, and you can learn you can kind of learn something new from everybody, but um just is uh how you approach it and how you take things.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Yeah, like I feel. Yeah, I really like that answer too. You may also have a future in politics, Henry, because you got the like you said a lot of nice things about a lot of pe a lot of people there. Um what if if you would say, okay, like from here on out, the season is gonna go the your current season is gonna go perfectly. What would you just like what would that look like a perfect season for you?

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Perfect season. I think obviously winning. I love winning, but actually not even winning, I don't even like winning, I just hate losing. And so I think definitely winning is up there, having a good time with the guys and uh my teammates, uh, making sure just everybody's successful, making sure I'm successful because and like just working hard and making sure I grow and get better. Um right now I've been training a lot by myself and with with the team in preparation um for every single game. I think I think just yeah, just definitely getting getting to a different place and a better place than where we were at the start of the season um is what's most important. And then uh on top of that, not losing.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Yeah, not losing, right? That's always that's always the thing. So you're if I have this right, you're one of the captains for Clinton this year, right? You and Isaac?

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Is that what I'm yeah, yeah. In in theory, I think um it's like uh I would it's it's a group of like there's like a bunch of guys who are kind of involved in everything, every decision, and then like Isaac's the main captain, and then I'm kind of like on top of it, and it kind of is like that that order, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Yeah, gotcha. So what would you say as a guy who's a leader in a team, uh, what would you say are really important characteristics of a great teammate?

SPEAKER_00 33:25

I think I think looking out for your teammates, that's the that's the biggest thing. Um I think just doing doing what's necessary for the team and like in the best interest of the team is also up there. Um I think I told the I told Kyle that he could make me captain or he couldn't make me captain either when I came in. I said I don't really care what happens, I'm gonna do what what's best for the team either way. Um and it doesn't really yeah, I just I'm gonna look out for everybody. I'm gonna help and like encourage, but also like just hold hold people to a high standard. Um no matter what if I if I wear the title or not, I think I think it's just yeah, it is just a title, but I think everybody's gotta have those qualities on for a team to be successful.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Yeah, and how do you let's say there's a player who's like not as good at the soccer, right? Like how do you how do you help lead that person into a place where like they feel that they're a valuable member of the team, even if they've only got a couple minutes rather than playing 90 minutes every game?

SPEAKER_00 34:30

I think um definitely just being positive, making them feel like still welcome even if they're not playing. But um, I I mean that has been me. I I've been in that position when I when I've joined different teams. Um but I think yeah, just making them feel welcome, so like talking to them, still be like just like how's your day? Like just it just it being friendly to them. I think that's one of the most important things. But I think it's also you gotta like encourage them to work harder and like uh to work and like put in extra work so that they can grow and get better as well.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Yeah, that's that's really good. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

As you let's say you had uh a younger player who's maybe like 16 or 17 and just about to start their college kind of search process or their next steps in the soccer process. What are some things you might tell them or some pieces of advice you might give them as they kind of navigate through that process of like finding the next place to play?

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Uh I'd definitely say email, email a lot of coaches, um, figure out what you want. Like you're definitely not gonna know right away, but like just kind of get an idea. Um, and then don't limit yourself. Just email, email, email, reach out to lots of people. Um, and then kind of as you like and tour, and as you tour, you'll kind of like just go off your feeling, like go off your instincts and be like, dude, hey, I like this place, hey, I don't like this place. Like just figure it out. Um I'd say one thing I wish I would have done was PG. I know it's the um, I know the rules are changing a lot around that kind of stuff, but like just getting the most development you can um when you're younger and like giving yourself the most amount of time to join a call, like join a college ready and make sure you're ready is I think really important. Um and then uh yeah, I think that's mainly the main things I can think of.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Yeah, that's one of the things that Mason, we had Mason Barron and um and Fields on, I don't know. It's it's AJ and I, it's been a couple weeks since we did it, but they'll actually come pretty close together in the sequence. And that was one of the things that they were talking about is it they're because they're both in their PG year at Taft. They were talking about how important that PG year is just for kind of getting more soccer and like you know, getting bigger, getting a little stronger, and kind of like being able to mature in the game and like be really college ready. So that's a good piece of advice. And what do you think, AJ?

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Oh my gosh. Um so so you played midfield this year, you've played on a lot of teams. Is is midfield typically your spot, or uh do you have another preference where you like to be?

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Oh yeah, definitely midfield. Um different. I think like I like playing the 10 um and I like playing the eight the most, but I'm also I'll play strikers sometimes, like I'll I'll be in number nine sometimes. Um it depends really what um who who the personnel the team has and like what's happening with that, but I think definitely the ten and the eight in the midfield are my favorites.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

All right.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

And and mainly and mainly what I've played my whole career.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

Okay. All right. Well that that's why you're not afraid to get up there and score a little bit too while you're still playing many.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Yeah, they when we played them, you'll appreciate this, AJ. When we played Randolph last year, so we played them in our conference, and and that was a that was a game under the lights, and it was pretty late in the season. It might have been the last league game or second to last league game, but like right towards the end of the season.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

And they their like basic strategy was like, okay, Henry will get down and get the ball, like on their 18, and then he'll dribble through everybody, and then he will get it to the other 18 and try to score. Because they didn't the some of those guys like didn't necessarily they worked hard and they and they tried really hard, but they didn't necessarily have the same kind of soccer experience as Henry did. And Henry was just like, I'm gonna make this thing happen. So it's like I'm gonna go down here, and you know, all the guys on the other team are just like whacking away at him as he like dribbles through, and then like that's what an eight does. They box the box. I was like, I just always laugh. Like, that gentleman is what a box the box midfielder is. He's like box, box to box, box. Yeah, yeah. And it's another thing that I've always been impressed with is your work rate too. It's like you just are always working really hard on the field.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I try, I try to, I think that's like one thing that I really have um I hold to a high standard within myself, and like that's one of my biggest values, and like I just always want to work. I'm always trying to work harder, always trying to work harder than everybody else, and and make sure, like, even if I'm not the best at one point or like I'm not the best, then I'm gonna try, I'm gonna make sure that there's no like reason that I shouldn't be, and I'm gonna put in enough work to make sure that I I'm like I have enough enough belief in myself when I go out on the field that I can just like have have a belief in my abilities.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Yeah, that's awesome. What are some what are we maybe we didn't ask any kind of like questions that got to this, but what are like what are some things you want the world to know about you, Henry Gibson person?

SPEAKER_00 39:37

Uh I don't know. I think I don't really know. Um I l I really like photography. That's a that's a big hobby of mine. I I'm really into photography. Um and I kind of like it's one of the things that I like to do when I like to do it. It's not something I want to go out, like I force upon myself to do every single day. Um I like I I'll just like I'll pick up my camera one day, go for a walk, take some photos, or like I'll just have my photo uh I'll go through like a month where I'm like really into it and then I kind of just like take a break from it. And it's just it's something I do when I feel like I I want to do it. I I don't ever try and force it. Um I really like to draw as well. Um and again, like kind of my hobbies, like I soccer consumes so much of my life that when I'm when I'm not playing soccer, I'll like pick these things up and just do them, and it's kind of like a nice break from it. But like I um yeah, I really like to draw. I really like to I just like to be outside. I like to be always doing something. Um, I like to always be constantly busy.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yeah, what kind of camera do you have? Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

Uh right now, I have actually a couple. I just got this uh Fujika um film camera, and I've been experimenting with that a lot. I have uh um Rebel T7 and then I have this M Canon M500 that I kind of um just take out. It's like it was I was trying to make like YouTube videos of things that I was like building for a while. Like I had this like sketchbook where I like design stuff that I want to build, and then I was like was like recording it and building it, but I kind of got out of that. Um, and now I just use it as like a camera. Um and I think that's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

So there's the a corner of the internet where Henry Building Things lives, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

I don't think nothing ever made it up, but like there's there's definitely videos that have been edited, but nothing's ever made it onto the internet.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

I'd watch that time-lapse video of you building something. I mean, what kind of stuff what kind of stuff were you taking videos of building? This is interesting.

SPEAKER_00 41:43

Let's see, I was I made this like or I was making this um LED like screen where like you program it and like it was like a bunch of ladies together and then uh it would like hash across it, like you could like program it to say like what you wanted it to say, and it would like just kind of go across the screen. Um I built like I took this weed whacker and I put it like on a bike and was making a weed whacker um bike, so like a motorized bike with a weed whacker motor. Um what else? I did all kinds of things, or like things like I'd see in a movie, and then I'd be like, I just kind of like sketch it down like how that would work, or like what, or like just things that things that would live in my mind when I'm like boarding class, and like I just think of them and I just sketch them down and and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Dude, I'm all in on weed whacker bicycle. Like that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

Uh yeah, working?

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Did you get it working?

SPEAKER_00 42:35

I I never finished it actually. That's that's one of my biggest problems is like with things like that. I would I would start them and never finish them. I was oh, there's this um one thing that was like for for a couple years that I was like really big into was this um hydrogen-powered bike where like you you basically take water and you took stick these two um electrodes into them, and the electricity basically breaks the water molecules apart, so you get like hydrogen out of it, and then you can use that hydrogen gas as like a combustible um fuel. And I was trying to build that for a while. I'll still have the pieces for it, but I never ended up finishing it.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Yeah, that's one of those things. The hydrogen car is a thing that they've tried to scal to solve for at like economic scale, and it's yeah, but the alternative fuels for automobiles, it may actually be the best one.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

I think it is, yeah, I definitely think it is.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Yeah, that's awesome. I recently had a little, this is not at all about Henry, but I recently had a chemistry breakthrough, which is a big deal. So the iron on Paul, there's uh the water at Paul Smith's campus, though, there's like old iron pipes, so like sometimes iron comes through the water, and I recently like figured out how to get the whites white, which is a real big deal for me. It uh like very white, and it's a chemistry reaction, right? So there's this stuff called iron out, and you just put it in there and it turns the water, like it takes the iron out of the water. And it was like this has just happened in the last couple of days, and I was I'm like so excited that I finally figured this thing out. But I who who even thinks of chemistry, like you put a little acid in there, not acid, but like that's what iron out is is like citric acid, yeah, like what's in orange juice, basically, right? Yeah, and it just drops the iron right out of here, and like you go from this water that's like just a little brackish to completely clear, and it does the same thing, it just like pulls the stuff right out of the clothes. It's wow. Yeah, it's pretty cool. You can like watch it happen in real time, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Oh wow, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

I appreciate so I appreciate the yeah, I appreciate the engineer brain, yeah, like going towards all this stuff, which is like you're like if you just describe that and like and then like put that into like what should I be when I grow up, the answer would come up in every computer is like engineer. Like anybody who's like weed whacker bike, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I it's cool that you found that thing.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

I've always definitely like I've always like just wanted to know like how things work and like wanted to get my hands on things and like take them apart, figure out how they like operate and stuff, and like yeah, that's always been me since I've been very young.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Yeah, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

Henry, while I was uh preparing for the podcast, and I can't believe I forgot about this. Um I came across a little factoid about you that uh during your I think varsity high school year, you got league MVP with a hundred career points in two years.

SPEAKER_00 45:17

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Let's talk about that. What what were those two years like? Uh how do you go score in uh 100 career points in two years.

SPEAKER_00 45:27

So uh goals were two points and assists were one. My first season, I think I had eighteen goals and like 14 assists or something. No, 20 assists. And then my second season, I had 26 goals and like 18 assists. Um and so yeah. Actually, that speaking of which high school, my senior year was one year that I played as a striker. We played a 4-4-2, and I was I was one of the other ones up top. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

I'm just laughing because that is the most engineered answer to that question. Aja's like, Yeah, how'd you do that? And you're like, Well, here's the math. I love it. It's both the most practical and accurate answer, you know. You could be like, Yeah, I got on and I just had this great season. You're like, Well, I scored 18, and then you know, the next year I scored 20, and that's like how we get to 100. Yeah, it's awesome. The small school soccer, man. Like, if you have a couple of good players, you can have you can have really good teams. And those players, yeah, I really like players that are from those kind of smaller schools because they learn how to be relied on, like to win games, right? And it's like the end of the game, like, give me the ball, right? And then you throw into a bigger and then you go to a bigger program, and like everybody is like, you know, also good. And it's like, okay, like give me the ball, and then you got to figure that out, and that's a fun, that's a fun problem to solve as a coach. Love that. Um, what uh what do you like to take photos of? Like, is there like a specific thing? Like when you said, like, oh, I want to go on a walk and take pictures. Like, what do you like? What's your like main subject?

SPEAKER_00 46:57

Um, hmm, my main subject, I think, again, it's like I I kind of like I'm always thinking, like my brain is like always going. So like when I'm playing soccer, when I'm like doing photography, I just like to like go out and just like not really think. Like, I'll just like I'll see something. I don't really like, I don't have like unless unless I maybe like see have like seen something, I'm like, oh I maybe I want to try that or like go out and do that. Like I'll watch like an Instagram video and see and be like, oh, I want to go try that while I'm while I'm taking photos. I'll just kind of go out and be like just experiment and just try things and like just like oh I see this like bird or oh I see this flower, oh I see like this building, like just and then just like frame it up and like I don't know. Yeah, it's it's not like I ever go out and I'm like actively searching for things I wouldn't say.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Yeah, I I appreciate the your approach to basically everything as I just let it come to me. Like that's a really cool and refreshing way to enjoy the world, right? Is it like because the modern world tells us we gotta have this specific goal and we gotta do the specific thing, and like and you're just like, yeah, you know what? I'm just in the moment, I'm walking around, I'm letting it come to me. Like that is something to be admired, honestly. I think that that's awesome. Um, you guys could probably nerd out about photography for like an entire podcast all by itself, I bet.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

Henry does have his own photography Instagram. I was searching up here.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

I'm gonna have to find that.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

Yeah, I'll have to I'll have to share it with you. Yeah, definitely photography.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Oh, it's it's called Henry Photography.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Henry Photography. Henry Photography 26. Ooh, you went through a roll of black and white, did you?

SPEAKER_00 48:33

I did, I did, yeah. Actually, um the where I worked this summer, there was a guy who had um film and he just he had a lot of it. Well, there's like I was at a summer boys' camp, and so there's like photographers who take pictures for the social media media, and he developed and like had a bunch of film that he just got in like these really long roles, and he like cut it up and he gave me a bunch just to experiment with. He's like, just go take pictures of whatever, um, and I'll develop it for you. He has actually a couple more roles for me. Uh I went on a hike um and I had like Kodak Gold 200, and I think he has like three roles of that for me that he's working on developing right now.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Yeah, it's really cool. I've always liked the process of I have not when I was younger, like your age, I I really like to take photos also, but like there was no digital photography at that point because that's that's my age. And I always really liked the process of developing like the film like developing the film was actually really liked that more than the actual photography, if that makes any sense. So there's like a dark room in my high school, and like we'd go in there and like you do the little tray, and I always like that a lot. There's something about the that process that I really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Yeah, that's something I really want to learn how to do, and I'd be really interested in in learning how to do.

SPEAKER_01 49:50

It's it's pretty easy, but like you also get to it's really cool because like you just like throw the picture in the in the solution and like you watch the picture appear. It's yeah, it's a very cool thing. Yeah. I don't know. What are we missing? What haven't we talked about, AJ, that we need to that we feel like we need Henry for?

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Oh man. I don't know. I think we we've covered quite a bit. I mean, we we talked about you know his time coming up, his time at uh Clover this year, kind of uh talked about his aspirations for the future. Yeah. Um I got some rapid fire questions we could go through as we we start to close this thing out.

SPEAKER_01 50:25

Oh yeah, I love rapid fire. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

All right, all right. Uh favorite professional club?

SPEAKER_00 50:32

I don't think I really have one to be honest. I don't, but I do have a favorite player. Uh Kevin.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

Okay, that was my next question. Favorite player to watch?

SPEAKER_00 50:41

So kind of yeah, Kevin De Bruyne. Uh De Bruyne. And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Is he somebody that you model your game after, or is there another player or players you model your game after?

SPEAKER_00 50:55

I wish. I really wish I could play like him. Um some of the things he just does are amazing. I try to, I think, but um I don't know. I don't think I could. Like just some of his vision and the the passes that he like can make are just is it are just amazing. Um no, I don't think I really play like anybody. Maybe I just play like me, I think. I just do yeah. What works for me. Oh go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 51:23

If you have to pick between Madrid and Barcelona, who would you pick?

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Barcelona.

unknown 51:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

That's the right answer. I appreciate you answering it, but that's also the right answer.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

What are you wearing right now for boots?

SPEAKER_00 51:37

For boots? Um the the World Cup um Nike um I think they're vapors. Yeah. The pink the pink ones, which I really liked with the uh pink, white, white, like the pink, white shorts, uh, or the pink top, the white shorts and the white socks. It it really it really looked good because the boots matched with the top, and then they had like little hints and accents of white in them.

SPEAKER_03 52:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

And I thought that was I thought that was my favorite look. I will I love wearing that jersey combination. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Yeah, it was good. And it was like a sandwich with those pink boots. A couple of you guys after the World Cup got the pink boots on, and I just kept thinking that it was a pink sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:19

Yeah, it was good.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Um who on the Clover team, in your opinion, is like one of the most underrated players?

SPEAKER_00 52:28

Underrated. That's my guy. That's my best friend. Um, and I don't know if he's underrated because like he's he's really good and people know he's really good, but he's just so technical, he's so fast. Um, he's like he's really strong, but like he's really strong and really fast, but his technical ability is just like it's amazing. Like some of the things he'll just be like his dribbling is just crazy. And I don't know, yeah. He's he's really impressive.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

Alright. Um if Clover has a 5v5, who who are you picking to be your other four?

SPEAKER_00 53:31

I think Mason. I think um Michael, I think I'll take um Liam. Let's see, that's what's that one? Two more. And I'd probably take that's hard. I'd probably take oh Mason Brown. I also uh I forgot to preference that. Um I'd take Sean. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 54:06

Yeah, all right, so it's an all midfield crew basically, right? Yeah, and he and then you got Liam and then you got Liam to score goals. I think the sleeper pick in the 5v5 is Lute because like he could play as you goalkeeper, but also he can like he could run a little game in the outfield too if he wanted to, I think. That is true.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

Yeah, Lute was so good.

SPEAKER_01 54:23

Yeah, I think he's a sleeper pick in the 5v5. Because like, I mean, you don't play with big goals in 5v5, so you don't need a goalkeeper. All right, more rapid fires, these are fun.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

Yeah, yeah. Um, what what do you do to kind of suck yourself up before a game? Uh you know, are are you just kind of like thinking about things? Uh, do you do you like to listen to music, certain kind of music?

SPEAKER_00 54:45

Um no, I think I like I'll think, hey, I really don't want to lose today, and that gets me fired up, and I'll eat a sandwich from my mom's store, always with chicken. It's always the same sandwich. Um, and then I'll always eat the same breakfast, um, which is like four eggs, and then I'll eat the sandwich a little later. Uh, and then I just I'll listen to music or I won't. Like, I'll just be in the car kind of like, and I'll just think I just really think like, oh, I don't want to lose today, and that gets me like fired up.

SPEAKER_01 55:17

Alright, I need to understand this the eating. So it's four eggs, what style?

SPEAKER_00 55:23

Uh I fry them. Fried with um beef tallow and a little bit of salt.

SPEAKER_01 55:27

Yeah, alright. Okay. So like how hard so like over medium or over easy or over hard or what you're gonna laugh, but I just kind of do it until they look right. Yeah, but do you like a little yolk or not? That's the question.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

I I used to really not, but like now if if they have not or if they have a little yoga, like they're a little runny, then then it's fine. But I I I guess I prefer them a little harder, but like like I said, like I'll just I'll look at them and be like, oh, I'm hungry, I want to eat those. And so like I don't want to cook them any longer.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

And it's it's just four eggs. It's not like there's no toast on there or no meat or nothing, it's just four eggs.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

No, just four eggs, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

All right, and what's the Henry Game Winner sandwich?

SPEAKER_00 56:10

Uh it's my mom's bread she makes every morning, and then it's chicken that I don't know what she puts on it. She just cooks it. Um, and then red onion, uh spicy brown mustard, lettuce, and cheddar cheese.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

That sounds pretty good. We should actually, since we've it's come up like five times now, we should definitely give you the opportunity to plug your mom's store.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Oh yeah. Uh River and Rails and Wayne's um Waynesburg, New York. Um it's a it's a great place. She goes in, she bakes everything at like three in the morning, all the all the pastries, all the um all the bread for the sandwiches for the day, everything. Um she bakes it right right that morning. And then yeah, she uh she works there for a little bit and then goes to another job actually that she has as well.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

Yeah, so if you're in the area, you need to go there and get yourself a sandwich. You could call it you should call that sandwich the Henry and have her sell it as the Henry. I should have a breakfast.

SPEAKER_00 57:10

You have a breakfast. I have a breakfast sandwich too, yeah. It's uh ham and an egg and cheddar cheese and then a little bit of maple syrup, like put on it. And I I I've told her before that she should make that like a special.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

Yeah, maybe if we all just send her emails and write in, like you should just call this sandwich the Henry.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah. I love it. Okay, more rapid fire questions. My my my last rapid fire question was like your your favorite pregame uh snack. That's that that's kind of like the last one I have.

SPEAKER_01 57:41

I think we covered that though, right? The Henry Game Winner sandwich. Yeah. Maybe the sandwich is called the game winner, and then the breakfast sandwich is called the Henry.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

Yeah. Oh there we go.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

Yeah, I like that. The game winner. Yeah, the little bit really like that.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

That little bit of maple syrup on that ham, like that, like I bet makes I bet the that little bit of maple syrup is what makes that thing. Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 58:04

That's what, yeah, that's what my favorite part about it. She actually does this, these people that live by us that make all these like maple products, and one of them is like this maple butter. Then I used to put that on it, but um, now I just have the maple syrup. And actually, she buys the maple, or we get the maple syrup from uh this guy who also is like lives pretty close to us and has this whole um sugar shack and everything. They make all a lot of maple syrup, and they they're they come in, their son is or not the son, their grandson is my sister's age, and he comes in and like he'll it's kind of like his maple syrup and his grandfather he does with his grandfather, and then she buys it from them and uh sells it at the store, and then she'll be like she uses it. There's other stuff she makes. She makes these cinnamon, these maple cinnamon uh buns, maple walnut cinnamon buns, and she uses it for that.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

Does she make those every morning? Because that sounds like the sort of thing that I want right now. Yeah, yeah, maple walnut cinnamon bun.

SPEAKER_00 59:02

Every single morning. She makes cinnamon buns, um maple walnut, uh cinnamon buns, but obviously not cinnamon, like maple walnut sticky buns, I guess they're called, um, muffins, and then like those are the three like main things. She has three different kinds of muffins. Those are like the main every everyday things, and then she'll like kind of however she's feeling, she'll make like different like uh other pastries as well.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

I'm gonna get the I'm going there tomorrow morning. We don't have a game. Our game tomorrow is late, so I'm gonna go there in the morning and get and get some of those bonds, man. Like this is all right. I wrote it down. I legit wrote it down. I was like, it is now on the list of things I need to do tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 59:41

I'll let her know you're going. I was gonna work tomorrow, but um, because our game, we had a game, but it got canceled. They didn't have enough players. Um, we were gonna go down to Binghamton and I was gonna work tomorrow, but I think I'm actually working Sunday now.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

Yeah, where we where was the game at SUNY uh SUNY Broom?

SPEAKER_00 59:56

SUNY Broom, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:58

Yeah, they they like it's too bad because there's a lot of players in that area. It's just too bad they struggle for size. That was when I coached at Adirondack, that was a game that like you weren't sure if it was gonna happen or not, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:09

Really? Wait, I think it got rescheduled to the 27th, so I think we still are playing them, but I think they only have like 13 or 14 people, and a couple of them are injured or something or sick. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:21

Yeah, it's a bummer.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Yeah, we actually play City Adirondack next week.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

Yeah, that's a that's a big one. There's a Vermont connection on that team too. A guy who uh a guy who I played with in college, his son is Waikey. So Waikey Aguda is a guy that I put it with the name Johnny, it's his son. So like their best attacking guy. Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good. So you know, you just gotta go beat them for a little ADK pride, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

Yeah, exactly. I think they're kind of like our rivals. That's what I've heard. That's what people have been saying. They're our rivals, and so I'm really excited to play them.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

Yeah, when I coached that when I coached that Adirondack, those were like those games were like very fierce and very intense. Hudson Valley, so the big rivalries were like Hudson Valley for like all the it's like the four Adirondack schools, and Hudson Valley is not an Adirondack school, but like HVCC and ADK are big rivals, and then like Clinton, then so ADK's rivals are like Clinton, North Country, and HVCC. Yeah, those are the big ones. And for you guys, I assume it's like kind of the same, maybe not HVCC as much, but definitely North Country.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

Definitely North Country and definitely Adirondack. That's um, but I I know for sure North Country. Um, and then they've been all saying that Adirondack is. Um and but I I yeah, I know North Country is, and I I know a lot of people on the North Country team, and like I can that's yeah, that's a I'd say those are probably our biggest rivals.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

Yeah, so I think we're at time, right? We're close anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:48

Yeah, absolutely. We uh we're just about to nail it. Parting shots, parting shots, hey buddy. Uh Henry, I just gotta say, uh, as as this being the inaugural year of Clover and getting a chance to follow the team, I I've admired watching you and and getting to know you. That this was been a real fun conversation for me. So thank you for taking the time with us.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

Oh well, great. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. And I I really admire what you do, and I really liked your work, and I I appreciated you being at all the games and all the commitment and drive that you made to be there as well. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:21

Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:23

Yeah, man. This has been really great. I you know, like you love all your children equally, but you've always been one of my favorites, Henry.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Oh, well, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

Yeah, and we'll be and yeah, we'll definitely be in touch and hopefully you're around for next spring and we'll get going again and maybe get over that hump and go from second to first.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:40

All right, great. Yeah, thank you. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

Catch up with you soon, okay, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:45

Alright, sounds good. Have a good day, everybody. All right. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Thank you. Bye. See ya.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

See ya.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

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